Re: Lifan's also thinking early SN, but 91T-like...[Fwd:C02-016 -aka VotezChirax]]

From: clidman@eso.org
Date: Thu May 09 2002 - 02:20:49 PDT

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    Dear All,
      The 2-d, wavelength calibrated spectrum of C02-016 is available at:
    http://www.sc.eso.org/~clidman/.

    Cheers, Chris.

    Peter Nugent wrote:

    > > If we end up with some spectroscopy time available (or some bad-seeing
    > > conditions that only allows us to go for something this bright) would we
    > > be able to distinguish this hypothesis from the SN Ib/c hypothesis by
    > > seeing the spectrum 10 days later (observer's frame)? What about with
    > > more blue coverage?
    > >
    >
    > At later times a Ib/c will flare up in the red with large CaII and OI
    > emission lines. We could probably do it with the R-I R-Z photometry, since
    > these lines would be about 1.0 microns and redder and spectrscopy wouldn't
    > help much more given how faint it would get in the near IR. A blue
    > spectrum might show differences, but my knowledge of a Ia in the blue vs a
    > Ib/c in this part of the spectrum is small.
    >
    > Even if it is a 91T, with this amount of extinction it would be pretty
    > wortless for cosmology. We might learn some things about SN physics, but
    > given it's z it really isn't that far out there to learn much.
    >
    > I would suggest doing other things first, like host galaxy
    > redshifts/typing from past SNe, nearby SNe, etc. before spending more time
    > on this one unless you are really desparate. If we have multiple colors
    > from the rolling search we might be able to pin down it's type, even with
    > extiction, via Lifan's method. I pray that we find better things to go
    > after out there.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Peter
    >
    > --
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    > Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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