Comments on Conley et al.

From: Mark Strovink (strovink@lbl.gov)
Date: Tue Sep 07 2004 - 07:55:16 PDT

  • Next message: Alexander Conley: "Re: Comments on Conley et al."

    Hi Alex,

    I found your 8/25 draft to be interesting, educational, and
    intelligently
    written.

    My comments concern [the data in] Figs. 9, 10 and 12.

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    In Fig. 9, errors corresponding to a peculiar velocity of 300 km/sec are
    displayed horizontally. In quadrature, scaled by the local Hubble
    slope,
    are they also included in the vertical errors? If not, perhaps this
    should
    be considered; it would help to dispel the false impression that the
    lowest-z points contribute disproportionately to chi^2.

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     From Fig. 10, one hopes to judge whether the stretch-luminosity
    relationship
    is systematically different for high-z and low-z SNe. However, since
    the
    chi^2 of the low-z points with respect to the solid line is obviously
    unacceptable, one is led not to take seriously their displayed error
    bars.
    In turn this confounds the judgment.

    Is this conundrum avoidable? Perhaps the following supplement to Fig.
    10
    should be considered for inclusion: Start from the residuals and their
    errors (relative to "Best Fit") from Fig. 9 (see above comment). Modify
    these residuals by backing out the stretch correction to each point (but
    retain the stretch-correction-related contribution to the error in the
    plotted residual). Using these residuals and their errors, construct
    the
    analog to Fig. 10.

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    In Fig. 12, no errors are shown. Based on the points displayed there, a
    Pearson coefficient and two best-fit (slopes + errors) are quoted. Do
    the
    Pearson coefficient and best-fit slopes take into account the known
    point-by-point errors, both in B_BV residual and B_max residual, that
    could
    have been displayed in Fig. 12?

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    Assuming that no qualitatively different impressions result from these
    modifications, none of the above comments imply that the proposed cuts
    should not now be finalized and the data should not now be unblinded.

    - Mark

    [Strovink@lbl.gov, LBL (510)486-7087 (Fax 4047), FNAL (630)840-8715]



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