Re: Comments on your CMAGIC draft - 16/08/2004

From: Chris Lidman (clidman@eso.org)
Date: Tue Aug 24 2004 - 06:36:18 PDT

  • Next message: Alexander Conley: "Re: Comments on your CMAGIC draft - 16/08/2004"

    Hi Alex,
       Thanks for the quick reply. As a follow up question, do you correct
    the measured B-V colour in some way, since the B- and
    V-band observations are taken at different dates?

    Cheers, Chris.

    On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 20:00, Alexander Conley wrote:
    > Hi Chris,
    >
    > Thanks for reading the draft so quickly.
    >
    > I'll respond to your more substantive comments, and try to
    > get the improvements you suggest into the text as quickly as
    > possible:
    >
    > Section 4, 2nd comment (B and V at different times) :
    > This turned out to be much less of an issue than I thought. I
    > required that
    > the B and V data points be within 0.1 days of each other. In order
    > to
    > get
    > more points I had to loosen the requirement to 7 days. It appears
    > that,
    > at least for this data set, people never took a rest frame V
    > observation
    > except right after a rest frame B observation. I know that this is
    > not the
    > case for our latest ACS observations.
    >
    > Section 5: CMAG relations at high redshift
    > I didn't actually use the goodness of fit critereon here, or require
    > that the
    > SNe have more than 2 points. I should have explained this better,
    > but
    > the real requirement is npoints > 2, sigma_beta < 0.5. SN2000fr,
    > believe it or not, does NOT meet this requirement -- it's slope is
    > rather poorly measured (sigma_beta = 0.66). I felt that SNe with
    > very poorly measured slopes don't really contribute to the
    > discussion.
    >
    > Section 6.1: Dispersion
    > I was actually doing my best to not compare dispersions. I think
    > that this
    > issue is a quagmire, and am really hoping to avoid it. Lifan is
    > working on
    > a paper where he talks about this a lot.
    >
    > Section 8 : Slope fit to dispersions
    > The S = 0.7 value is ignoring errors. Including the errors is a
    > little scary
    > because they are presumably rather correlated -- but you are
    > probably
    > right, I should at least try to do something with them.
    >
    > Section 8: npointsmin > 1
    > The shift is mostly along the long axis (Omega_2), by about 1/4
    > sigma,
    > but there is also a component along the short axis of about 1/6
    > sigma.
    > In the normal fit, Omega_1 = 0.09 +- 0.11 , Omega_2 = 1.48 +- 0.81
    > With npointsmin 2, Omega_1 = 0.11 +- 0.12, Omega_2 = 1.66 +- 0.97
    >
    > Other points: s_b = s_v
    > This is an ugly issue. The short answer is that it doesn't matter
    > for the
    > CMAGIC fits, but plays a slighly larger role in the maximum magnitude
    > fits. In either case it isn't a big difference. I feel compelled to
    > do it the
    > way that I did because if you believe in CMAGIC you also are forced
    > to
    > acknowledge that s_B != s_V for all SNe. But I should certainly try
    > to
    > clarify that it doesn't really affect the result.
    >
    > Alex
    >
    > On Aug 23, 2004, at 3:10 PM, Chris Lidman wrote:
    >
    >> Dear Alex,
    >> First of all, congratulations. You have done an excellent job, and I
    >> appreciate all the effort that have made in documenting your work.
    >>
    >> My comments are mostly of a minor nature.
    >>
    >> For the SCP exec.: I am comfortable with taking off the blind.
    >>
    >> Regards, Chris.
    >>
    >>
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