From: Andy Howell (howell@astro.utoronto.ca)
Date: Fri May 28 2004 - 07:46:16 PDT
I encourage you all to do what we are doing on the Legacy Survey --
ignore Dan Green. We have come up with our own naming scheme for legacy
survey candidates: e.g. 04D3aa for the first SN discovered in the D3 field
in 2004. We just post these to the web directly and forget about Dan
Green. If he is going to put your SNe on a web page anyway, why don't
you just put it on one that you control? It is so much less hassle. We
never have to rename our SNe for publication. We never have to deal with
proving things to this guy that is used to dealing with amateurs.
The IAU Circulars serve a very important role for low redshift SNe, but
for high-z observations they have become a joke. Why subject yourselves
to the needless stress?
I am not saying that SNe should not be reported -- they should.
But in this age of Google, when everyone can find your web page, why are
we using a system based on *telegrams* that has built in delays, limited
bandwidth, and is subject to the caprices of a non-expert?
-Andy
On Thu, 27 May 2004, Tony Spadafora wrote:
> I would add that the "Possible Supernovae Page'" - where we were
> relegated to, still has only Rachel's posting after over a month,
> http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/CBAT_PSN.html
> This temporary page is unlinked from anywhere, so effectively
> invisible, while the promised interactive page hasn't appeared yet.
>
> -Tony
>
> On May 27, 2004, at 3:10 PM, Robert A. Knop Jr. wrote:
>
> > Why is it that these bastards can report an apparent supernova, but we
> > can't?
> >
> > I move that we depose Dan Green. I'm sick of that guy.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > ----- Forwarded message from IAUC mailing list <quai@cfa.harvard.edu>
> > -----
> >
> > SUPERNOVA 2004bx
> > D. Magee, B. Holden, R. Bouwens, and G. Illingworth,
> > University of California, Santa Cruz; J. Blakeslee and H. Ford,
> > Johns Hopkins University, and the Advanced Camera for Surveys (ACS)
> > Science Team report the discovery of an apparent supernova in the
> > galaxy cluster CL 1358+62, observed in exposures obtained with the
> > Hubble Space Telescope's ACS Wide Field Camera with the F850LP
> > filter (at m_AB = 26.3 +/- 0.2; 'AB' magnitudes are defined by Oke
> > 1974, Ap.J. Suppl. 27, 21) on Apr. 6.82 UT, with the F775W filter
> > (at m_AB = 25.67 +/- 0.06) on Apr. 7.81, with the F850LP filter (at
> > m_AB = 26.5 +/- 0.3) on May 6.62, and with the F625W filter (at
> > m_AB = 25.60 +/- 0.05) on May 7.19. The new object is located at
> > R.A. = 13h59m51s.06, Decl. = +62o30'27".9 (equinox 2000.0), which
> > is 0".6 east and 0".5 north of the center of the brightest nearby
> > galaxy [having redshift 0.3174; cf. Fabricant et al. (1991, Ap.J.
> > 831, 33)]. It is not clear if the nearby galaxy is the host galaxy
> > or if the new object may reside in a background galaxy. SN 2004bx
> > is not present in ACS observations from 2002 May 14 with the F775W
> > filter (5-sigma limiting m_AB 27.9) and with the F850LP filter
> > (5-sigma limiting m_AB 27.1).
> >
> > (C) Copyright 2004 CBAT
> > 2004 May 27 (8347) Daniel W. E. Green
> >
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> >
> > --
> > --Prof. Robert Knop
> > Department of Physics & Astronomy, Vanderbilt University
> > robert.a.knop@vanderbilt.edu
>
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