Re: SuF02-012 (fwd)

From: Rachel G. (gibbo@panisse.lbl.gov)
Date: Thu Mar 11 2004 - 19:44:21 PST

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    Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:55:59 -0800 (PST)
    From: Rachel G. <gibbo@jimbean.lbl.gov>
    Reply-To: Rachel G. <ragibbons@lbl.gov>
    To: Chris Lidman <clidman@eso.org>, Andy Howell <howell@astro.utoronto.ca>
    Cc: hstsearch@lbl.gov, Mamoru Doi <doi@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
    Subject: Re: SuF02-012

    Hi Chris and Andy,

        I will send you the ACS spectra for both SuF02-012 and
    SuF02-060 tomorrow. I realize I need to recalculate the
    error spectra since my last reduction.

        In the meantime, I've attached plots comparing the ACS
    spectra to the various ground-based spectra :

    SuF02-12 :
    figs 1-2 = Subaru
    figs 3-4 = VLT
    figs 5-6 = Subaru+VLT

    SuF02-060 :
    figs 7-8 = Gemini
    figs 9-10 = VLT

        Also included are Lifan's best matches (figures 11 &
    12).

        N.b., Lifan wants to do a more careful galaxy
    subtraction for both of these candidates and for SuF02-060
    use a finer redshift grid when fitting - he used bins of
    0.01. I'll let him elaborate.

        We think the redshift determination for SuF02-012 is
    quite robust and = 1.28. The redshift of SuF02-060 is
    1.04-1.05. This latter spectrum clearly contains host galaxy
    light which is relatively bright, contributing more than 50%
    of the flux in Lifan's fits.

        Interesting also for this candidate is that there could
    be contamination in the ground-based spectra from a second
    galaxy which is pulling the fits towards a slightly higher
    redshift (see figs. 13-16) -- whereas the ACS spectrum
    doesn't suffer from this problem (fig. 17). Furthermore (to
    make nice figures) I had to apply a linear renormalization
    to the ground-based spectra in order to better match them to
    the ACS spectrum.

        Regarding the ESI spectrum, I believe Lifan has those
    data?

    Rachel

    On 11 Mar 2004, Chris Lidman wrote:

    > Hi Rachel, Vallery,
    > Could either of you provide Andy with the ACS spectrum of SuF02-012
    > together with an error spectrum. It might be interesting to combine
    > the ACS/VLT/Subaru spectra into a single spectrum.
    >
    > Does anybody know who reduced the ESI data on SuF02-012?
    >
    > Cheers, Chris.
    >
    > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 13:37, Chris Lidman wrote:
    > > Hi Andy,
    > > Thanks for the plot.
    > >
    > > The Subaru data is available from http://www.sc.eso.org/~clidman/#L2742
    > >
    > > I weighted the VLT and Subaru spectra (using the error
    > > spectra) before combining them. In principle, one could add the ESI and
    > > ACS data as well if the the error spectra for these supernova are
    > > available. The ACS data appear to be in good agreement with
    > > the VLT and Subaru data. I know very little about the ESI
    > > data. You might have to ask Rachel, Vallery and Greg about the
    > > ACS/ESI data.
    > >
    > > Cheers, Chris
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 11:52, Andy Howell wrote:
    > > > You are right -- I attached the wrong plot! Here is the correct one.
    > > > The ACS plot looks pretty good.
    > > >
    > > > Your first mail said that it was a combined Subaru and VLT plot. I didn't
    > > > even know there was Subaru data on this one. According to the
    > > > spectroscopy web page we have ESI data as well.
    > > >
    > > > Any chance you could make a combined ESI, FORS1, Subaru, ACS spectrum,
    > > > maybe combining weighted by the errors? I think Peter has a program to
    > > > do such a thing. If not, if all of these have error spectra, I could
    > > > write something to do the rebinning and combination -- I have most of the
    > > > framework already for my program.
    > > >
    > > > -Andy
    > > >
    > > > On 10 Mar 2004, Chris Lidman wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Hi Andy,
    > > > > Thanks for the plots. The first one seems to be a plot
    > > > > of SuF02-002. Perhaps, you attached the wrong PostScript file.
    > > > >
    > > > > I've cc'ed this e-mail to Rachel and Vallery as both have been
    > > > > involved in the reduction of the ACS data on this elusive candidate.
    > > > >
    > > > > I attach a comparison plot of the VLT/ACS data that was sent to me
    > > > > by Vallery. The ACS data also show a dip at ~9200 Angstroms.
    > > > > If this is Si4000, then this might point to a type Ia at z=1.26.
    > > > >
    > > > > Cheers, Chris.
    > > > >
    > > > > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 21:46, Andy Howell wrote:
    > > > > > Chris,
    > > > > > This spectrum is better! I get z ~ 1.26, or z ~ 1.02 (see attached). I
    > > > > > prefer z=1.02.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > -Andy
    > > > > >
    > > > > > On 8 Mar 2004, Chris Lidman wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Hi Andy,
    > > > > > > I've combined the Subaru and VLT spectra of SuF02-012 into a
    > > > > > > single spectrum. The spectrum and the associated error spectrum are
    > > > > > > available at
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > http://www.sc.eso.org/~clidman/
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > This candidate has been placed at various redshifts, anywhere from
    > > > > > > z=0.9 to z=1.6. The wiggles in the combined spectrum are more
    > > > > > > pronounced, but finding a redshift will be hard.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Cheers, Chris.
    > > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >



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