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From: Don Groom (deg@panisse.lbl.gov)
Date: Thu Jun 05 2003 - 18:34:23 PDT

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    I was discussing stuff with Alex about the meaning of the likelihood
    function, and have gotten a little disturbed by the \P at the bottom of p
    14 of the HST paper. [That is *not* to say I have a problem with it at
    this point.]

    From the RPP02 discussion of statistics, last edited by Glen Cowan and
    previously by Bob Cousins, p. 230 (from the input \TeX file for RPP02):

    "The likelihood function is the joint p.d.f.\ for the data, evaluated with
    the data obtained in the experiment and regarded as a function of the
    parameters. Note that the likelihood function is {\it not} a p.d.f.\ for
    the parameters $\vec{\theta}$; in frequentist statistics this is not
    defined. In Bayesian statistics one can obtain from the likelihood the
    posterior p.d.f.\ for $\vec{\theta}$, but this requires multiplying by a
    prior p.d.f. (see Sec.~\use{Sec.bayes})."

    For the parameters \theta read [\Omega_M,\Omega_\Lambda, {\cal M},
    \alpha]. The reason for emphasis on the likelihood being the pdf for the
    data but NOT for the parameters is that this is a common error that
    Glen Cowan, Fred James, and others find dismaying, just like biasing
    distributions by the use of bad priors.

    I don't know how to "integrate over the nuisance parameters," but would
    look at it very very carefully, and maybe discuss it with Cowan or
    Cousins. Besides being a statistics nut, Bob is part of NOMAD, and has
    made a living doing 2D CL plots for the collaboration.

    Also sorry not to have picked this up before.

    D

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