SCP Meeting Notes, 1997 October 29


Susanna's NFS Proposal

(Yes, I know it's NSF, but I thought I'd take the typo and fly with it.)

As we get here, Saul is talking to Susanna about her NFS proposal for the nearby search at Chew's Ridge....


Screwed by HST

Saul says he's been talking to ST... our problem is that right now they want us to tell them which objects to observe by December 30, which of course is before our first Keck night.


Nature Paper Revisioins

Peter is working on the Nature paper revisions. He says an hour after the group meeting he can hand Saul everything. The figure captions are going to grow infinitely... which is odd, but that's what they want us to do. There is some debate about whether or not we will ever try to publish in Nature again. The idea is to have everything done by the end of the week. (Peter says that he has also addressed all of the issues from the international collaborators.)


The Next Multi-SN Paper

Saul wants to talk about the main stumbling blocks about what we want to get through regarding getting a paper out before the December 28 run. (Yipes!)

Gerson is making a proposal, saying that we quote Omega_M, and then include several other numbers which show how it changes as if features outside our control change, such as script-M from the nearby SNe, color (if you can somehow quantify it). Gerson wants a simple one-line list of all sorts of effects in errorbars, but Saul thinks that it won't be this simple to do.

Stuff which needs to be completed:


Why Do the First 7 Give a Different Omega?

It looks like what we should focus on is explaining why we are seeing a difference between the first 7 SNe and the collection of SNe at z=0.45. First is reanalyzing the first 7 SNe with our current techniques.

Greg also wants to go back and try and address some of these thigns like extinction, Malmquist bias, and so forth, to see if we can come up with effects.

Matthew points out that when the search was done, the subtraction software was probably different from the software used for the efficiencies. Perhaps the Malmquists found weren't relevant? Perhaps we need to go back with the latest software and look yet again at the first seven SNe to see if we can find any new faint SNe.

Saul is hypothesizing that even once we do fix the K-corrections, all of the first 7 SNe will still be on the higher Omega side of the rest. But first we have to do it.

We've talked a lot about these SNe. We discussed the odds of a supernova being a Type II is slim, because the magintude would be way off at a given redshift. The probability of a AGN is slim, because it shouldn't have had a reasonable-stretch lightcurve, and because if we have even a host galaxy spectrum we might have seen it as an AGN.