Re: Two versions of the plot to look at

From: Saul Perlmutter (saul@LBL.gov)
Date: Sat Jul 12 2003 - 15:26:00 PDT

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    Here's a version that adopts Greg's request for black error bars. Now I'm wondering
    if we should leave off the bottom panel, based on Chris' comment.

    clidman wrote:

    > Dear All,
    > If we are going to include an additional figure, I'd suggest:
    >
    > - linear z scaling. As mentioned by Greg, a log z scaling emphasises the low-z data.
    >
    > - Figure 6 (In Saul's original e-mail) was the most striking. The binning appears to
    > average about a dozen high z SNe, and fortuitously, some of the most deviant SNe
    > are included in this dozen We should be clear in the caption what we have done. The
    > residual plot (the lowest plot is Saul's figures) is probably biased, because we
    > have subjectively chosen a binning scheme that made the Hubble plot look very good.
    >
    > - Stay in B&W. We can put the colour plot on the SCP web page.
    >
    > - As Greg mentions, include only the averaged points (ie Saul's clean version).
    >
    > Cheers, Chris.
    >
    > Greg Aldering wrote:
    >
    > > Personally I like the plot without the unaverage points. If someone wants
    > > the unaveraged points they can refer to Figure 5 (since we seem to have
    > > decided that this would be shown in addition to Figure 5). Also, IMHO, the
    > > point of averaging is to clarify the trend in otherwise noisy data -
    > > putting both the averaged and unaveraged points on the plot completely
    > > defeats this goal.
    > >
    > > I may also have preferred it when the error bars were black (You'd have
    > > to run ploterr and then oplot so the red circles are in front of the
    > > error bars though.) In that version the larger error bars were not as
    > > distracting to my eye. Also, I like the linear z because it shows *our*
    > > data rather then using 3/4 of the area to show the low-z data (or else
    > > having to resort to insets as in Figure 5).
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > >
    > > Greg
    > >
    > > On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Saul Perlmutter wrote:
    > >
    > > > ...If we like the more busy version, we may want to consider also
    > > > putting the open circle (unaveraged) points on the bottom panel.
    > > >





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