Re: host galaxy extinction systematic error

From: Greg Aldering (aldering@panisse.lbl.gov)
Date: Sat May 17 2003 - 14:09:17 PDT

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    >On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 01:35:40PM -0700, Greg Aldering wrote:
    >> I believe that correct way to isolate the E(B-V) uncertainties is to
    >> Monte Carlo only the E(B-V) errors and then look at the distribution of
    >> best-fit values of Om in a flat universe. This would be very time
    >> consuming if you let script M and alpha vary, since you have to
    >> marginalize over their probabilities. A fast, but less accuract way
    >> would be to let MINUIT or some other solver crank out the best-fit
    >> values based on the equations for Om, script M, and alpha (with Ol =
    >> 1-Om).
    >
    >Are you talking about in the extinction-corrected fit? If so, that
    >ought to just give approximately a spread of OM which is the same as the
    >spread we get by using the current error bars in the chisquare fit.
    >(That is, if we treat the errors as Gaussian.) This is assuming you're
    >talkinging about Monte Carloing each SN's EBV based on its dEBV. Or,
    >probably more accuratley, it will give you a spread which is the
    >quadrature difference between the dOM size from the extinction-corrected
    >and not-extinction-corrected fits; very close, anyway. It's not clear
    >to me, though, how measuring the size of that spread tells us what the
    >extinction systematic ought to be for a non-extinction-corrected fit; it
    >only tells us how much of the statistical uncertainty in the extinction
    >corrected fit comes from color errors.

    Yes, I am talking about Monte Carloing each SN's EBV based on its dEBV.

    If you are correct that the spread in OM will be the quadrature difference
    between the low-extinction and the extinction-corrected fits, then you
    can simply take that quadrature difference as the statistical contribution
    to the difference in OM between the two fits. So then you systematic is

       |OM_lowext - OM_extcor| - sqrt(sigma_extcor^2 - sigma_lowext^2)

    Of course this is an approximation because sigma_lowext is higher than it
    would be if the low-extinction fit had as many SNe as the extinction-corrected
    fit. You could simply account for that by assuming that

       sigma_lowext' = sigma_lowext * sqrt(N_lowest/N_extcor)

    and using sigma_lowext' in place of sigma_lowext in the previous equation.
    The sqrt(N_lowest/N_extcor) factor must be quite close to 1.

    - Greg



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