Re: 98104 spectral classification

From: Greg Aldering (aldering@panisse.lbl.gov)
Date: Wed Apr 30 2003 - 20:33:24 PDT

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    Just for clarification, my statement about throwing out restframe
    wavelengths < 4000A was based on the new 3A-binned fit to SN1980K at +7
    days. In the case of the original fit we discussed - that to SN1984E at +4
    days, with 20A binning and which *does* extend well below restframe 4000A,
    I still don't see how the 4000A break - which is so apparent in Isobel's
    spectrum - disappears in yours. Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding
    something here.

    - Greg

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Andy Howell wrote:

    > Greg,
    > This mainly a psychological effect of the rebinning -- I rebinned the
    > data to 20A.
    > I put up on the web page the same plot rebinned to 3A -- you can see it
    > looks like the
    > untouched data.
    >
    > Also, the spectrum I show is cropped to only show where the template
    > spectrum and
    > the observation overlap. I put up another plot showing a different fit
    > with more of the data.
    >
    > My program has the freedom to do other things to the data as well. In
    > my plots I have alread
    > subtracted host galaxy. Plus, my program either reddens or bluens the
    > spectrum to find the best fit.
    >
    > So the spectrum I show may not correspond to reality -- I let it mangle
    > the observed
    > spectrum to find the best fit possible. Often it will find junk, but
    > the point is that
    > if there is a Ia signal there it should find it. Here I just chose one
    > example to show,
    > but I don't believe it -- I don't believe any of the fits.
    >
    > -Andy
    >
    > Greg Aldering wrote:
    >
    > >Hi Andy,
    > >
    > >I am looking at the spectral fits to 98104 on your website. I don't see a
    > >relation between your spectrum and Isobel's. Am I even looking at the
    > >right thing? (Yours is labeled "Observed: 98104cc_comb.Ic.asc" and
    > >Isobel's is labeled "98104 (Keck) : 98104cc_comb.asc". Yours is a
    > >power law and Isobel's have plenty of wriggles.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >>Due to the E's 4000A break, you subtrack off more light blueward of 4000A
    > >>than redward, and this can mimic Ca from the SN.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >No. The effect of subtracting an elliptical is to decrease the strength
    > >of Ca - unless you let the elliptical go negative! But I do agree that
    > >9878 isn't convincing.
    > >
    > >- Greg
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >



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