Re: further thougths on CMB vs. Helio redshifts

From: Michael Wood-Vasey (wmwood-vasey@lbl.gov)
Date: Wed Apr 16 2003 - 09:34:06 PDT

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    On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 11:29:17AM -0500, Robert A. Knop Jr. wrote:
    > On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 09:25:39AM -0700, Michael Wood-Vasey wrote:
    > > BTW, when doing this it's a lot easier to start from the beginning and
    > > figure out the z from spectra shifted to the CMB frame rather than
    > > apply a correction later. It's the discussion of how to correct
    > > already-derived redshifts that makes things confusing.
    >
    > Not just spectra -- you also have to correct the luminosity distance,
    > which is observed in our (geocentric) frame. I was trying to correct
    > that by just using a different redshift. Instead, should I figure out a
    > Lorentz transformation from the Helio frame to the CMB frame to fix the
    > flux, and just use CMB redshifts? That would probably be the right
    > thing to do.

    Whew. Finally we're on the same page.

    Yes, what I've been trying to argue is that you should do everything
    from the beginning: Lorentz transform the flux, time, and wavelength.

    You're just going to get confused if you try to adjust the derived
    values like redshift and luminosity distance.

    > Instead, I'm tempted to "just use CMB redshifts" and not mention it,
    > because we know nobody will notice (they never have in the past), and
    > because we know that these details make no difference except for a
    > slight change in alpha and a slight change in the chisquare.

    I would rather see us do it completely right.

     - Michael



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