Re: Another thing I can't reproduce: E(B-V) from the Milky Way

From: Robert A. Knop Jr. (robert.a.knop@vanderbilt.edu)
Date: Thu Mar 20 2003 - 14:42:35 PST

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    On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 02:30:44PM -0800, Greg Aldering wrote:
    > Regarding R_R, take a look at
    > /home/astro34/aldering/njnunes/minuit/total_select_extinc.pro
    > To the best of my recollection, this is the program that was used to
    > assign R_R to each SN. It is based on calculations done by Peter -
    > perhaps he can recall in more detail what procedure was used. I think we
    > can guarentee that the light was treated as red light, not as blue light!
    > This effect surfaced late in the analysis, but was discussed pretty
    > thoroughly at the time. But, I agree that the effect seems awfully large
    > in retrospect.

    Not just awfully large-- implausibly large. Impossibly large, for the
    reasons I stated in the last message.

    That program you quote is just an interpolator. I would question how
    it was made. I suspect, despite your guarantee, that it was not done
    correctly, and that effectively the light was treated as blue (e.g. by
    deredshifting the filter). That is the only possible explanation I can
    think of for the completely unreasonable range of R_B's which are
    quoted.

    These are the R_B's I get when I integrate my umedian template spectrum,
    redshifted, through the O'Donnell law and the R-band filter:

      z AR/E(B-V)
     --------------
     0.00 : 2.74
     0.05 : 2.72
     0.10 : 2.72
     0.15 : 2.71
     0.20 : 2.70
     0.25 : 2.71
     0.30 : 2.70
     0.35 : 2.70
     0.40 : 2.70
     0.45 : 2.70
     0.50 : 2.68
     0.55 : 2.66
     0.60 : 2.65
     0.65 : 2.63
     0.70 : 2.61
     0.75 : 2.59
     0.80 : 2.57

    That's more the sort of range of variation I'd expect. Also, it goes in
    the direction I'd expect : as you get to higher and higher redshift,
    eventually you are going to start shifting the "dead" left side of the
    rest-U-band SN spectrum into the blue side of the observed R-band
    filter, thereby weighting the redder side of the observed R-band filter
    more. Thus, it seems reasonable to get a *lower* R_R for supernovae at
    higher redshift, when you're talking about Milky Way extinction.

    -Rob

    -- 
    --Prof. Robert Knop
      Department of Physics & Astronomy, Vanderbilt University
      robert.a.knop@vanderbilt.edu
    


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