Comments on HST paper

From: Andy Howell (DAHowell@lbl.gov)
Date: Wed Feb 26 2003 - 15:11:10 PST

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    Good job Rob -- you have done a lot of work, and I think this will be a
    very interesting paper.

    Substantive comments first:
    1. Someone made the comment that we should say that in all cases the SN
    and galaxy redshift agree.
    This may not be true. For 9819/SN1998ba the galaxy redshift was
    z=0.393, but the redshift of the SN (and the one used int the paper is
    0.43). This is the one you threw out for being the wrong color. Did
    you try doing a K-correction for z=0.393 to see what the difference is
    (although this almost certainly is not the redshift of the SN)?
    Here is the nearby galaxy's spectrum, showing its redshift:
    http://panisse.lbl.gov/collab/data/spec/homesp/eso_mar98/reduc_tel/9819_galz.ps
    Here is the SN at that redshift (it doesn't fit well):
    http://panisse.lbl.gov/collab/data/spec/homesp/eso_mar98/reduc_tel/9819_snz.ps
    Here is the SN at z=0.43:
    http://panisse.lbl.gov/collab/data/spec/homesp/eso_mar98/reduc_tel/9819_snz2.ps

    It is possible that the galaxy at z=0.393 is in the foreground and is
    causing the extinction seen for that SN. You can see Robert Quimby's
    host info on it here:
    file:///home/lilys/quimby/hosts/html/9819.html
    He writes: "Small round host with overlaping companion (which is the
    host?)."

    On the other hand, the reduction notes Isobel wrote say: "The Sn is at
    550 and the nearby galaxy is at 565. The redshift of the nearby galaxy
    is 0.39." If those are pixels, then the redshift she is quoting is
    probably for the brighter galaxy to the upper right in the image on
    Quimby's page. This is probably not the host.

    I apologize if this has all been covered before -- this happened before
    I joined the group. I don't have the 2d spectra to check.

    2. You don't say anything about the spectroscopic IDs of any of these
    SNe. Non-Ia contamination is a very important issue, but I think we are
    on solid ground with these 11 SNe. All were identified as Ia's in the
    circulars. From a quick look at the spectra I would say that 8 are
    certain Ia's, and the other 3 are probable one Ia's (but there is no Si
    to be absolutely definitive). When you consider the colors and light
    curves this means that all of the new SNe in this paper pretty positive
    Ia's. Of course the same cannot be said of the original 42 SNe. I
    still want to see a fit removing the SNe that we aren't sure are Ia's
    from the 42, but I suppose that is never going to happen.

    3. P99 commented that the results still hold if stretch is ignored. Is
    this still true?

    4. You say that these results are better because of the colors at least
    5 times in the paper, often followed by something like "but the old
    results were still ok!" This gets redundant.

    Ok, here are the more minor issues. I have not repeated comments I
    remembered that others have already made, but I'm sure there are still
    some duplications.

    Everywhere that you have a sn year such as 1998ba you should put "SN" on
    the front (SN 1998ba). I'm pretty sure the journal will make you do this.

    Abstract: I agree with Isobel that we should start off strong with our
    results, not with history in the abstract. Banishing the first few
    sentences to the introduction will fix my next problem, that the second
    sentence of the introduction is confusing and should be reworded. While
    you are at it, replace "extremely high confidence" with something
    quantitative.

    p. 2, last full sentence on the page:
    "With these advantages, the precision of the lightcurve measurements is
    so much greater for the 11 supernovae in this paper than was the case
    with the 42 SNe of P99 that even though there are only 1/4 as many
    objects, just these 11 high-redshifte supernovae provide limits on the
    cosmological parameters comparable to limits from the previous work."
    Holy extraneous modifying clauses, Batman! I suggest: "Even though
    there are only 1/4 as many objects, the precision of the new lightcurves
    presented in this paper is so great that the limits placed on the
    cosmological parametes are comparable to previous work."

    p. 4, "z is only precise to typically" Omit only.

    p. 5 For Table 1, all of the z's are given to 3 significant digits,
    even where we only have the redshift from the SN. We should label the
    SN-only redshifts.

    p.6 Section 2.2 first paragraph "then" should be "the" before "WIYN
    3.5M", and this should be "3.5m".
    Also, was it Keck I or Keck II?

    p.6 Last sentence: "For low-redshift supernovae, so as to match as
    closely...": two modifying clauses before you even get to the subject
    of the sentence is too much.

    p.7 beginning of last paragraph on page. "For most of the supernovae,
    the zero offset of the lightcurve was fixed at zero...." I know what
    you mean, but you might want to explain what a "zero offset" is.

    p. 9 section 2.3 first paragraph. "The WFPC2 filters are enough
    different from the ground-based filters, however, that a linear term is
    not sufficient, and moreover ..." However and moreover in the same
    sentence is too much. Split into two sentences. And change to
    "different enough".

    p. 9 last par. Put in dashes or parentheses to clarify, e.g. "For each
    color -- B-V, V-R, and R-I -- every data point ..."

    p. 13, first paragraph -- I agree that a graphic would help explaining
    the ridge-line process.

    p. 14 last par. Can cut out redundant info in first sentence so it
    becomes, "The greatest improvement this paper shows over the previous
    high-redshift supernova data is that the R-I colors have been measured
    to much higher precision."

    p. 15 First sentence-- "From this, P99 argued that, omitting two
    obviously reddened supernovae to create their "case C" subset, the high
    redshift supernovae did not show significant host galaxy reddening
    relative to the low redshift supernovae." Middle clause is distracting
    and makes the sentence unclear. Change to something like, "From this,
    P99 argued that in their Case C subset the high redshift..."

    p. 17 last par. Sentence that begins "Whereas modest..." should be split
    into two sentences.

    p. 18 For the sentence that begins "The range of parameter space
    explored was...", another way to write it is omega_m = (0,3),
    omega_l=(-1,3)." That is, assuming that you don't mean [0,3] (was zero
    allowed?). Also, make sure you get the number of parentheses right --
    they aren't right at the moment.

    p. 19 Somewhere where you explain stretch, we should also reference
    Phillips 1993 for establishing the light curve-decline relationship.

    p. 21 last paragraph -- "Figures 3" should be Figure 3., and the
    sentence that begins "If the supernovae at higher redshifts..." is unclear.

    p.23, 24 % sign left off (probably forgot the \)

    p.25 3rd line "effects" should be "affects"

    p.25 Last sentence, "Because there are only two parameters..." sentence
    is unclear. 3(!) clauses before you get to the subject.

    p. 27 end of 1st par. "...the energy density of the universe must not
    be normal matter, i.e. a cosmological constant or dark energy." This
    sounds like you mean that a cosmological constant is normal matter.
    Also, a cosmological constant is dark energy -- I think you mean
    quintessence.

    p. 27 Section 4 only has one subheading, 4.1. This is not allowed.



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